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Letters for Tuesday, July 17, 2007
• Regarding the cane field fires
• Sorry state of Kalalau
• The silent sufferers
• Another ‘Ohana’ in the making?
Regarding the cane field fires
Did anyone in this administration or in the Civil Defense Department ever think about being pro active and take preventive measures to keep these fires from happening?
Why not control burn all these dry cane fields? Or get cattle to graze them as Bette Midler has done in the homesteads? Or plow up the fields thus eliminating the fire danger?
Our Civil Defense people have told us how well prepared we are for an emergency — as with a hurricane, flood or other disaster. But when the smoke from a relatively small cane field fire can tie up traffic around this Island for hours, then how prepared are we for something big?
We must get our cane haul roads paved and open to give people alternate means of getting around this Island. The Ka Loko dam tragedy was yet another example of why we desperately need these cane haul roads opened.
Glenn Mickens
Kapa‘a
Sorry state of Kalalau
Everything you said in your article is true. It is clear that you have the facts of the situation regarding the Kalalau Trail. There must be many near fatalities every year, and safety is ensured only by the grace of God since the trail is clearly unsafe.
One thing that could be done and should be done is the creation of a new information board at the base of the trail which accurately, not dramatically, describes the genuine hazards and risks including mud slides and dry earth slides and one-foot trails which are greater hazards than river crossings and boulders which are also on the trail. Volunteers from the Sierra Club or from local schools could certainly create such an informative piece of writing, and paint it unto a sheltered piece of wood and do it all for free.
In addition, people should be required to get a day-use pass immediately at the trail head.
I love Hawai‘i for the natural beauty, for the beauty of the spirit of the people, for the perfect climate, for the perfect water, and believe the culture is a gift to civilization.
I think it would be a shame for the Kalalau Trail to become known as the Killer Trail. I hope tragedies of that magnitude do not have to happen to force some responsible changes, which I have recommended, to happen.
I believe that Kaua‘i cannot afford not to initiate these affordable/free measures.
Certainly one of the most beautiful natural spots on earth and human life are both worth preserving.
Mahalo and hoping positive action will be taken soon.
Jeanne Kahelin Kussmann
University Place, Wash.
The silent sufferers
This letter is pertaining to the article written on July 7 about the horses who were tortured in Hanapepe, one of which resulted in its death. Horses are one of the most spiritual creatures on this planet. By us humans riding them, putting a “bit” in their mouth and taming them goes against everything that is natural for this creature. Yet, most of these animals allow us to do so, and like I have experienced, become your best friend and a loyal companion. Horses are silent sufferers. They can be in pain, be injured or even be sick and it is extremely hard to diagnose and treat these animals being that they show no discomfort until unfortunately it is to an extreme extent. By tying up a horse and leaving it you are blatantly endangering this animal. The horse that died in Hanapepe suffered and was tortured up until its death. It was alive up until the point it was strangled, but not after being starved of food and drink in the process. Why and how could someone do this to such an extraordinary creature of life and spirit? How could this man do this to such an innocent animal? I know and am not implying that this was an intentional act, but this is a perfect example of why it was so wrong to tame these animals in the first place. By being a pet owner of any animal it is our responsibility to care for our animals and their well-being. These horses were without care by being left tied up for days, and were ultimately tortured. If a dog can be tangled in his leash, how is a horse different? This is just another animal with four legs that needs access to food and water on a daily basis so there is no excuse to tie an animal up and leave it unattended for days or even one day. This was not supposed to happen, and I commend The Garden Island for putting this horrendous act of animal cruelty on the front page of the paper and bringing this to the community’s attention.
Krista Vogel
Princeville
Another ‘Ohana’ in the making?
Walter Lewis’ article in the July 14, The Garden Island is totally on the mark. I suspect, however, it was written before Wal-Mart announced that it was going to challenge the legal applicability of the Big Box Bill No. 2203 to their proposed expansion.
Since Wal-Mart announced its decision our county government leaders have been bristling and posturing and one council person was quoted as saying “the county will respond to any legal actions and if (the lawsuit) happens we have to deal with it.”
What this of course means is that our government will be spending hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars to defend this legislation. Remarkably, based on a scientific poll, the majority of Kaua‘i residents oppose this legislation and in fact want the proposed Super Wal-Mart to happen. This has shades of the Ohana Tax Reform situation where a significant majority of the voters approved property tax reform. Yet the county government determined after the vote that the whole thing was illegal and then instigated a lawsuit against itself to prove it. In this case we taxpayers are paying for a lawsuit to set aside the tax reform that the majority of us support. Please someone tell me what is wrong with this picture. I somehow thought our elected officials were there to support the wishes of the majority.
Finally, while it is early in the Wal-Mart case to make any legal determination you can bet that Wal-Mart would not have initiated this action unless they felt they had a very strong case. That is the way they operate. I expect our government officials will spend hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars finding this out the hard way.
Remarkable.
John H. Gordon
Princeville
• Sorry state of Kalalau
• The silent sufferers
• Another ‘Ohana’ in the making?
Regarding the cane field fires
Did anyone in this administration or in the Civil Defense Department ever think about being pro active and take preventive measures to keep these fires from happening?
Why not control burn all these dry cane fields? Or get cattle to graze them as Bette Midler has done in the homesteads? Or plow up the fields thus eliminating the fire danger?
Our Civil Defense people have told us how well prepared we are for an emergency — as with a hurricane, flood or other disaster. But when the smoke from a relatively small cane field fire can tie up traffic around this Island for hours, then how prepared are we for something big?
We must get our cane haul roads paved and open to give people alternate means of getting around this Island. The Ka Loko dam tragedy was yet another example of why we desperately need these cane haul roads opened.
Glenn Mickens
Kapa‘a
Sorry state of Kalalau
Everything you said in your article is true. It is clear that you have the facts of the situation regarding the Kalalau Trail. There must be many near fatalities every year, and safety is ensured only by the grace of God since the trail is clearly unsafe.
One thing that could be done and should be done is the creation of a new information board at the base of the trail which accurately, not dramatically, describes the genuine hazards and risks including mud slides and dry earth slides and one-foot trails which are greater hazards than river crossings and boulders which are also on the trail. Volunteers from the Sierra Club or from local schools could certainly create such an informative piece of writing, and paint it unto a sheltered piece of wood and do it all for free.
In addition, people should be required to get a day-use pass immediately at the trail head.
I love Hawai‘i for the natural beauty, for the beauty of the spirit of the people, for the perfect climate, for the perfect water, and believe the culture is a gift to civilization.
I think it would be a shame for the Kalalau Trail to become known as the Killer Trail. I hope tragedies of that magnitude do not have to happen to force some responsible changes, which I have recommended, to happen.
I believe that Kaua‘i cannot afford not to initiate these affordable/free measures.
Certainly one of the most beautiful natural spots on earth and human life are both worth preserving.
Mahalo and hoping positive action will be taken soon.
Jeanne Kahelin Kussmann
University Place, Wash.
The silent sufferers
This letter is pertaining to the article written on July 7 about the horses who were tortured in Hanapepe, one of which resulted in its death. Horses are one of the most spiritual creatures on this planet. By us humans riding them, putting a “bit” in their mouth and taming them goes against everything that is natural for this creature. Yet, most of these animals allow us to do so, and like I have experienced, become your best friend and a loyal companion. Horses are silent sufferers. They can be in pain, be injured or even be sick and it is extremely hard to diagnose and treat these animals being that they show no discomfort until unfortunately it is to an extreme extent. By tying up a horse and leaving it you are blatantly endangering this animal. The horse that died in Hanapepe suffered and was tortured up until its death. It was alive up until the point it was strangled, but not after being starved of food and drink in the process. Why and how could someone do this to such an extraordinary creature of life and spirit? How could this man do this to such an innocent animal? I know and am not implying that this was an intentional act, but this is a perfect example of why it was so wrong to tame these animals in the first place. By being a pet owner of any animal it is our responsibility to care for our animals and their well-being. These horses were without care by being left tied up for days, and were ultimately tortured. If a dog can be tangled in his leash, how is a horse different? This is just another animal with four legs that needs access to food and water on a daily basis so there is no excuse to tie an animal up and leave it unattended for days or even one day. This was not supposed to happen, and I commend The Garden Island for putting this horrendous act of animal cruelty on the front page of the paper and bringing this to the community’s attention.
Krista Vogel
Princeville
Another ‘Ohana’ in the making?
Walter Lewis’ article in the July 14, The Garden Island is totally on the mark. I suspect, however, it was written before Wal-Mart announced that it was going to challenge the legal applicability of the Big Box Bill No. 2203 to their proposed expansion.
Since Wal-Mart announced its decision our county government leaders have been bristling and posturing and one council person was quoted as saying “the county will respond to any legal actions and if (the lawsuit) happens we have to deal with it.”
What this of course means is that our government will be spending hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars to defend this legislation. Remarkably, based on a scientific poll, the majority of Kaua‘i residents oppose this legislation and in fact want the proposed Super Wal-Mart to happen. This has shades of the Ohana Tax Reform situation where a significant majority of the voters approved property tax reform. Yet the county government determined after the vote that the whole thing was illegal and then instigated a lawsuit against itself to prove it. In this case we taxpayers are paying for a lawsuit to set aside the tax reform that the majority of us support. Please someone tell me what is wrong with this picture. I somehow thought our elected officials were there to support the wishes of the majority.
Finally, while it is early in the Wal-Mart case to make any legal determination you can bet that Wal-Mart would not have initiated this action unless they felt they had a very strong case. That is the way they operate. I expect our government officials will spend hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars finding this out the hard way.
Remarkable.
John H. Gordon
Princeville
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:19 AM:
" Hello again TGI,
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" First of all, let this be known, that these comments here are worthless and useless considering the topic being discussed. We found this topic a useless waist of time and money. This is from any intellectual interested reader. And yes, I am not associated with any former classmates there on Kauai also, for this matter alone.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM:
" I have seen alot of losers being mentioned in association to Waimea High School sports at UH Manoa. Might I add they are the one's who are delerious and a debachery to any level minded reader. These names are wide and long. And they run from 1979-1990 graduates trying grace the pages of Kauai and represent that school, outrageous. I for one, right now am putting all of them down for ever contemplating fame and popularity. We actually do not understand your fame and glory at Waimea High School.
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:
" Losers I have mentioned that graced those pages are as follows:
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM:
" Hello again TGI,
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
RE: 2/11/2009 and the above topic
Can we cut out the "EXPLETIVE" here. Everyone knows if you are or were affiliated with high school at one time in your life in Waimea, Kauai, you would know that you do not place one of the three stooges willing to work at Kentucky fried chicken and place him at the vice principal's seat at Waimea High School. We all know that BOE and DOE played no roll in this nonsense of students being athletes then becomming success in the respected choice of degree and field like a BA degree. An example, you cannot put someone like a Pereira or even an Aaron Francisco from Kahuku High School, now former Arizona Cardinals NFL, as a BA candidtate after a prolific showing in sports. It just does not work that way. We all know that they cannot be serious placing academics after a 10 year assistant coach with a rediculous man/educator and/or coach if I might add like Tommy Rita of the 1980's and then expect him, Patrick Pereira to educate people in 2000's after being associated with dumb athletes all their life and now turn to academics. Now they educate people? Ha! What are we looking at here is basically a rediculous and dumber community than most perceived DOE standard base learning. Otherwise throw this article out already, alright?
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "